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lucyin
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-07 Messaedjes: 3758 Eplaeçmint: Sidi Smayil, Marok
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Date: vén 01 dec, 2006 23:45:51 Sudjet: Li sene å e suwedwès vént i do walon ? |
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Vola çki ene binamêye Suwedwesse mi dmanda.
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Cecilia Samuelsson wrote:
Hello!
My name is Cecilia Samuelsson and I'm from Sweden. I'm writing an essae about Wallons.
But I'm not writing about the usual stuff, like when the Wallons emigrted to Sweden in the 15th centuary, I'm interessed in your letter Å or å. In Sweden we use this letter as well and verry often too.
Like walk: gå
stand : stå
on: på
farm: gård
and so on.
I'm not verry good in French and that will not help me in Wallon, but sometimes there are French translations after a Wallon text. Could you help me do you think.
What does "pådje" mean for example? |
it is "page"
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What does gårde mean? |
not a standard word, but wårder = to keep; on gåre (on gåre-tchesse) = a forest guard
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How far back do you know that you have used å ? |
We started in 1901, to note a pronounciation just like yours in swedish or danish ("A vélaire") which was typical of the city of Verviers, where Jean Haust and Jules Feller (the "fathers" of modern walloon writing) were born.
During 20th century, the letter was used in Liège city, replacing "â", and afterwards, in an unformal standardisation movement, in nearly all the East-walloon area (Province of Liège area), the most powerfull area for maintenance of the language (although many of the villages would pronounce "â").
In the 1990ties, the letter was adopted in standardized walloon (rifondou walon) to note the variation â <=>å <=> ó, in many words of walloon dialects.
Typically, the phonem noted as "å" would come from a latin root with A+L/R+consonant :
latin "arbolum" (?) (tree) => åbe
latin "carnus" (meet) => tchå
latin "tabule" (table) => tåve
It can also come from latin suffixe -ala, -alis : scala => schåle (ladder); canalis => tchenå (canal)
It can come from a sequence A+M+Consonant from germanic or latin origin
germanic "brambasia" => frambåjhe (blueberry)
latin "mansionen" => måjhon (house)
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I have found texts in Swedish in late 1500 where we have å.
The earliest emigrant from Vallonia came to Sweden around that time. Please correct me if I'm wrong. |
Walloon was not written at that time; all Walloon migrants to Sweden would write in French, the "culture language". The first litteracy movment started about 1756, with Simon de Harlez. |
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lucyin
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-07 Messaedjes: 3758 Eplaeçmint: Sidi Smayil, Marok
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Pablo Saratxaga Site Admin
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-01 Messaedjes: 1159 Eplaeçmint: Oûpêye
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Date: sem 02 dec, 2006 13:36:18 Sudjet: |
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dji n' aveu nén veyou ki vos lyi avîz respondou... dji l' a fwait eto :-)
I fåreut ecråxhî l' årtike sol diyacritike (on pout aler ratourner çou k' i gn a dins les ôtes wikipedias, li binamé Giskard R. Reventlov a metou les loyéns. |
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lucyin
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-07 Messaedjes: 3758 Eplaeçmint: Sidi Smayil, Marok
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Date: vén 02 fev, 2007 12:37:37 Sudjet: |
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Pablo Saratxaga scrijha: |
Li binamé Giskard R. Reventlov a metou les loyéns. |
Ké bråve ome, tolminme, èn ome tot-houte, djans ! |
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Maisse Arsouye
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-04 Messaedjes: 194 Eplaeçmint: Djiblou
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Date: vén 02 fev, 2007 19:33:43 Sudjet: |
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Oyi, on direu minme ki pout lire les tuzaedjes des djins _________________ Rissaetchî-vos di m' solia ! |
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Pablo Saratxaga Site Admin
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-01 Messaedjes: 1159 Eplaeçmint: Oûpêye
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Date: vén 02 fev, 2007 23:24:58 Sudjet: |
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Maisse Arsouye scrijha: |
Oyi, on direu minme ki pout lire les tuzaedjes des djins |
Et minme elzès candjî;
mins ça rote mî avou des floxhes di djins k' avou ene djin tote seule.
C' est l' pus sutî des deus, c' est po çouka ki dj' l' a tchoezi purade ki s' soçon R. Daneel Olivaw.
(si vos n' compurdoz rén a çou k' on berdele avou Maisse, vos ploz loukî la:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.Giskard_Reventlov
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Daneel_Olivaw
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djozewal
Date d' arivêye: 2005-07-01 Messaedjes: 307 Eplaeçmint: bagué !
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Date: sem 26 may, 2007 19:41:00 Sudjet: |
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Ptète ki c' n' èst nén do novia po vos mins, dins l' astchèyance ki...
http://web.vallonbruken.nu/ |
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