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MessaedjeDate: lon 09 fev, 2009 12:53:04    Sudjet: Wiccionaire Responde tot citant

Les candjmints a ndè dvizer :

http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Inte_di_noz%C3%B4tes

Sacwants mots dedja bén adjinçnés :

http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/tchestea

http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/cabuzete

http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/polene
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MessaedjeDate: mår 04 awo, 2009 11:58:33    Sudjet: Esplikêyes e-n inglès Responde tot citant

Citåcion:
Hello.
>
> Well, I'll write you in English 'cos your website is also available in
> English and my French isn't that good.
>
> I'm Brazilian and am very interested in learning Walloon language. As
> you know, there is very few materials for learning the language, and
> all textbooks and methods I was told about went out of print long time
> ago. The only material I have right now besides both Assimil
> phrasebooks, is "Phonetic Wallon for Belgian-Americans". I want to
> learn how to write in r'fondu, so before I start learning the
> language, I thought I'd be a good idea to try to convert the text from
> all "Phonetic Wallon" lessons into r'fondu. The point is that I can't
> find any consistent reference at all. Is the Li Croejhete Walone
> grammar in r'fondu? Are there any other r'fondu dictionary other than
> the one at moti . wallon . org? I've been checking many websites
> supposedly written in r'fondu, and words often seem to diverge in
> accents (diacritics).
>
> Before I start, I just want to get things right, as it's harder to
> switch to another ortography afterwards.
>
> I'm planning to get some comics in Walloon as well, since most of them
> have a French edition available and I might learn a little from them.
>
> Thanks in advance


Thank you for your letter.

The aim for a common orthography of Walloon began only in the 1990's and the nowadays orthography has been fixed from 2000. There is still some discussions which are published on

http://berdelaedje.walon.org/viewforum.php?f=7&sid=d3835fd1e10fdc861951d95731c3876c

But it can be said that 99 % of the words are fixed now. The noted words
for automatic correctors are on

http://chanae.walon.org/rifondaedje/decides/mots

As far as grammatics are concerned, there are 2 reference sites :
* http://users.skynet.be/lorint/croejh/
written in French, with examples in ethnic Walloons AND in rifondou. But the normalisation of some words may have changes (published in the late 1990)

* http://users.skynet.be/lorint/picr/
written in rifondou walon, in 2001. Also here, orthography of some words may have slightly change.

As far as the lexic is concerned, the work of "esplicant motî" began in
2000 and the different definitions were published on the "Aberteke"
http://moti.walon.org/ untill 2004.

From 2004 to 2008, the same work was continued on Wikipedia, with a
differientiation of lexical content (pages beginning by "Motî:") and
enciclopedic ones (there was some enciclopedic entries on the Aberteke's
motî). NOT ALL "red" entries of the Aberteke site were copied on
Wikipedia "Motî:" pages. Mr Baudoux (who will receive this mail too should have a list of the ones not yet re-written.)

In early 2009, I started the Wiccionaire
http://wa.wiktionary.org/
pressed by inter-Wikipedians, arguing that this was the most adequate place to publish the content of "Motî:" pages of Walloon Wiki. Automatic re-writing, however, was not so easy, so that there are a lot of "blank" entries as
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A5dvins

On Wicconaire, "written" entries are :
* automatic recopied entries from wikipeda as
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/tchafy%C3%AE

* re-written entries of Wikipedia as
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/crama
which you can compare with
http://wa.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot%C3%AE:crama

* developped entries of Wiki :
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/schadrea

* "raw" entries of former Aberteke Esplicant motî (they should be re-written)
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/nouzome

* developped entries of Aberteke Esplicant motî
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/gueuye
which you can compare with
http://moti.walon.org/dicc_esplicantG.html#GU

* new entries, fist with the "Wiki's motî" standards
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/zine

* then with improvments
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/paltot

* now, with the standards of other wiktionaries
list of last articles on
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/Mwaisse_p%C3%A5dje#Prum.C3.AEs_mots_intr.C3.A9s_avou_p.C3.A5r_li_cogne_des_.C3.B4tes_wiccionaires

There are also non Walloons who are working on short, translation-minded articles :
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/faeroy%C3%A8s

You could help us in the same way, learning the words, and "filling" blanks of Wiccionaire.

The discussion page is :
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Inte_di_noz%C3%B4tes

Previous discussion between first 2 "developpers" is :
http://wa.wiktionary.org/wiki/Uzeu_copene:Lwh
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