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[slampereur]

Recently someone here in Wisconsin discovered this site:

https://www.loecsen.com/en/learn-walloon

I was quick to note that this represents the Liege area/ Eastern dialect.
Natually, people asked how that differs from the Central dialect. Are there examples (ideally recordings) of the differences anywhere that I could point people to?

[Èl-Gueuye-Noere]

[Pablo Saratxaga]

I only did first page, but that looks verey good!

A modern (interactive) learning method was a big missing piece; I'm glad to see it starts to hapen.


Yes, it is in eastern dialect (the picture showing in the banner is actually the Meuse (Mouze) riverside in the city of Liege (Lidje), I recognized the place


As for the differences and equivalences (@Gueuye-Noere : dji pinse k' i dmande l' adire avou l' namurwès, paski c' est l' sôre di walon k' est djåzé e Wisonsene),

the writting is in "Feller" system, that notes quite troughly, the phonetic; which in your case doesn't help much, as it overemphasizes differences.

I think the best would be to start from a chart of the orthography of "rifondou", showing for each letter/group of letters that can have different values per dialect, the way it would be on each;
so you will then have the differences between Central and Eastern.

... however, after a quick search, I haven't found it in form of a chart (it sure exists, maybe someone will link to it).

So, here are some of the differences :

* the eastern writting "h" covers actually 4 things:
- rifondou "h" (not pronounced in central -- and as such often not written in Feller either)
- rifondou "jh" (pronounced "j" in central)
- rifondou "xh" (pronounced "ch" in central; xh is the unvoiced version of jh)
- rifondou "sch" (pronounced "sch" in central; sometimes in some words pronounced "sk" -- which is the western pronounciation)
* ending "-ê" is almost always rifondou "-ea" (pronounced "-ia" in central)
* a lot of "è" are what is written "ae" in rfondou (most often pronounced "a" in central); particularly the suffix "-èdje" ("-aedje" in rfondou; pronounced "-adje" in C)
* several "eû" are what is written "oe" in R (pronounced "wè" in C)
* "å" (written the same in R) is always pronounced like "ô" at Lidje ; in central is is also often "ô" (traditionally written "au"), but also some times "â"
* what is written "oen" in R is "on" (nazalized o) in E; but "win" (w+nazalized "e") in C. exemple "poenne" (sadness, sad/hurtful effort; fr:peine, es:pena) is "ponne" in E, and "pwinne" in C.
* what is written "oi" in R is "wè" in E and "wa" in C (same difference as with "ae"; the only thing is that "oi" has yet another pronouncition in western)
* préfix k(i)- in E, co- in central (eg: k(i)mincî vs comincî)
* participe/adjective ending -ou/-owe in E vs -u/-ûwe in C
* conjugation of 3d person plural (didn't show up in the sentences I looked at); eg: i volèt (E) vs i volnut (C) (=they want)

then there are also lexical diferences.
For example, the word given for "yes" is "awè"; while in C "oyi" is used instead.

And for the differences in the actual sentences...
Well, I'm quite surprized to see there ar eso few!!
There is a general "eastern-typed accent", but the actual phonemic differences are very few (in the sentences I looked at);
here are all the differences I can see until the sentence "Happy New Year"; that is for 24 sentences, :
* "awè" vs "oyi" (geographically prefered synonyms)
* "ponnes" vs "pwinnes" (dialectal phonetic difference)
* "acwérd" vs "acward"
* "kibén" vs "cobén"
* "disfindou" vs "disfindu"
* "wice" vs "eyou"/"ou" (I don't know exaclty which version is used in Wisonsin; the word "where")

[slampereur]

Thanks for the info.

[Èl-Gueuye-Noere]